From: Julianne Young <juliannehyoung@gmail.com>

Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 9:40 PM


To: Bernard Hudson <loyolamd82@gmail.com>

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Subject: Re: Idaho Vital Statistics Integrity Act - short
window for comments - by Friday, January 24

Based on the feedback I will
not include the quote from
SEGM in the bill, amending
(v) on page 2, line 46-47 to
simply state that the erasure
of biological sex negatively
impacts the health and safety
of all individuals. Then,
any other evidence can be
introduced in the hearing,
rather than being included in
the bill. Also, I got some
feedback from our vital
statistics department today
which I have incorporated in
the process piece of the bill
(sections 4 and 5) and they
suggested using 'material
fact' rather than vital

statistics in most
instances.

They have raised 2 other good
questions:

1) In section 5, do we not
want a medical authority to
certify to the final
designation of sex? If so,
do we want to limit this to a
particular type of medical
authority?

2) The draft you have
reviewed is silent on what
happens if they do not
resolve the indeterminate
status within the stipulated
3 years (section 5). We
included this to prevent
certificates from being left
in an unresolved status.
However, kicking it to the
courts after this time could
become problematic. What are
the recommendations to
resolve this?

I am attaching the current
(final) draft :) for your
comment.
Thank you for your help in
ironing out these final
wrinkles.

Representative Young

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:08
AM Bernard Hudson
<loyolamd82@gmail.com> wrote:
Gee Whiz!

Humans are the only
living species of Homo
Sapiens. Given that
fact, we are male and
female, there is no
other. We are
mammals, giving birth,
carrying a XX or an
XY, female or male.
Otherwise, a bizarre
abnormality results in
a state of disease:
Turner’s Syndrome,
Klinefelter’s
Syndrome, etc.

Everybody is
transgender, no one is
transsexual, cisgender is true for
everyone! Try not to
use the nomenclature
of non-science.

Non-binary?!?!?
Disneyland comes to
science. You are nonbinary, then what? A
worm? A worker bee?
A penguin in a
European zoo? An ant?
“I am Zero!â€​

Listen: Talk to me!
Be real! Stop! No,
no, you meant to say

that you are claiming
something that does
not exist except in
your mind? Got it?
Your mind? Take a
look, please. See?
Right! You are a male
or female so stop with
the rigamarole and
talk to me now!

Throw out words or
phrases that have have
shifting definitions,
political realms,
identity's
unscientific, and
whims and notions that
are NEVER studied in
science. Never!

I feel better.

BH
On Feb 4, 2020, at
9:44 AM, Kelsey
Coalition
<kelseycoalition@gmail
.com> wrote:
Looks great!
My only
concern is
with the quote
from SEGM.
Will, would
you consider
this? First,
the
reference"cisg
enderidentifying

individuals."
I believe
there is way
to make this
point,
without using
a word like
"cis" which
indirectly
endorses the
ideology upon
which
transgender
identities are
based.

My other
suggestion
with the quote
is to add nonbinary. Even
though
transgender
has become an
umbrella term
covering both,
some nonbinary
individuals do
not say they
are
transgender.
Many forms
offer both
categories for
people to
check when
they identify
themselves.

Will, could
SEGM consider
rewording this
-- something
like "not only
transgender
individuals,

but ALL
persons" as
well as add a
reference to
nonbinary?
~KC

On Tue, Feb 4,
2020 at 10:35
AM Natasha
Chart
<natasha.chart
@gmail.com>
wrote:
This is
great,
I love
it.
Thank
you for
doing
this.

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Feb 4,
2020,
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