From: James Shupe (Formerly Jamie Shupe) <jamie.shupe@yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 5:25 PM To: drmcretella@gmail.com; Michael Laidlaw <mike@drlaidlaw.com> Cc: David Pickup <davidpickuplmft@gmail.com>; Fred Deutsch <Fred.Deutsch@sdlegislature.gov>; Scott, Greg <greg.scott@heritage.org>; Natasha Chart <natasha.chart@gmail.com>; Eunie Smith <alaeagle@charter.net>; Gary McCaleb <mccgsm@gmail.com>; Glenn Ridder <glenn.ridder@outlook.com>; Horvath Hacsi <birdcatcher9@yahoo.com>; Hudson, MD Bernard <loyolamd82@gmail.com>; Jane Robbins <rlrobb123@gmail.com>; Katherine Cave <kelseycoalition@gmail.com>; Lappert Patrick <patrick@lappertplasticsurgery.com>; MD Paul Hruz PhD <hruz_p007@att.net>; Margaret Clarke <margaretclarke317@icloud.com>; Mary McAlister <mmcalister@childparentrights.org>; Matt Sharp <msharp@adflegal.org>; McHugh Paul <pmchugh1@jhmi.edu>; Monique Robles MD <pamosa27@comcast.net>; Quentin Van Meter <kidendo@comcast.net>; Richard Mast <rmast@lc.org>; Roger Brooks <rbrooks@adflegal.org>; Timothy Millea MD <tmillea@qcora.com>; Vernadette Broyles <vbroyles@childparentrights.org>; Walt Heyer <waltsbook@yahoo.com>; William Malone <malone.will@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Opposition strategy outlined in article. Have suggestoins? If the ACLU is asked a question, it should be why their South Dakota plaintiff in a surgery case killed herself? https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/lawyers-ask-to-dismiss-lawsuit-challenging-state-s-transgender-policy/article_7d4d4228-9099-57b2-8158-32757dffd934.html On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 05:57:33 PM EST, Michael Laidlaw <mike@drlaidlaw.com> wrote: Right! Convoluted argument. I'll have to look back at the bill, but I don't think it "singles out one group of people" either. Just harmful meds and procedures. -Mike On 2020-01-15 14:22, drmcretella@gmail.com wrote: Mike, Look at the medical claim in that "legal" ACLU quote; it is false on multiple grounds "no such thing as a medically diagnosable group of trans anybody; we are talking about minors! blockers, wrong sex hormones and surgical mutilation are never medically necessary in minors!" Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2020, at 5:00 PM, David Pickup <davidpickuplmft@gmail.com> wrote: Translation..."It's ok to harm boys by removing body parts because at least we're preserving a class of people." This is the height of political correctness. David Pickup, LMFT-S (888) 288-2071 15851 Dallas Parkway, Suite 600 Addison, TX 75001 www.davidpickuplmft.com I I IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail is meant only for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain confidential information which is legally privileged or otherwise protected by law. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, you are strictly prohibited from reviewing, using, disseminating, distributing or copying the e-mail. PLEASE NOTIFY ME IMMEDIATELY OF THE ERROR BY RETURN E-MAIL AND DELETE THIS MESSAGE FROM YOUR SYSTEM. On Jan 15, 2020, at 3:56 PM, Michael Laidlaw <mike@drlaidlaw.com> wrote: "The ACLU of SD said in a statement that it's unconstitutional to single out one group of people and categorically ban all care, no matter how medically necessary". Legal experts have an opinion on that statement? -Mike On 2020-01-15 11:59, Fred Deutsch wrote: Updated and expanded article from our state's largest paper. Many of the lines of thought the oppositions will use is outlined in the article. Let me know any recommendations you may have to counter. - Fred https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/15/south-dakota-legislature-bill-would-punish-doctors-who-perform-sex-reassignment-surgeries-lgbt/4476342002/ Sent: To: Cc: 1/15/2020 2:22:54 PM "David Pickup" <davidpickuplmft@gmail.com> mike@drlaidlaw.com, "Fred Deutsch" <Fred.Deutsch@sdlegislature.gov>, "Scott, Greg" <Greg.Scott@heritage.org>, "James Shupe (Formerly Jamie Shupe)" <jamie.shupe@yahoo.com>, "Natasha Chart" <natasha.chart@gmail.com>, "Eunie Smith" <alaeagle@charter.net>, "Gary McCaleb" <mccgsm@gmail.com>, "Glenn Ridder" <glenn.ridder@outlook.com>, "Horvath Hacsi" <birdcatcher9@yahoo.com>, "Hudson, MD Bernard" <loyolamd82@gmail.com>, "Jane Robbins" <rlrobb123@gmail.com>, "Katherine Cave" <kelseycoalition@gmail.com>, "Lappert Patrick" <patrick@lappertplasticsurgery.com>, "MD Paul Hruz PhD" <hruz_p007@att.net>, "Margaret Clarke" <margaretclarke317@icloud.com>, "Mary McAlister" <mmcalister@childparentrights.org>, "Matt Sharp" <msharp@adflegal.org>, "McHugh Paul" <pmchugh1@jhmi.edu>, "Monique Robles MD" <pamosa27@comcast.net>, "Quentin Van Meter" <kidendo@comcast.net>, "Richard Mast" <RMast@lc.org>, "Roger Brooks" <rbrooks@adflegal.org>, "Timothy Millea MD" <TMillea@qcora.com>, "Vernadette Broyles" <vbroyles@childparentrights.org>, "Walt Heyer" <waltsbook@yahoo.com>, "William Malone" <malone.will@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Opposition strategy outlined in article. Have suggestoins? Mike, Look at the medical claim in that “legal†ACLU quote; it is false on multiple grounds “no such thing as a medically diagnosable group of trans anybody; we are talking about minors! blockers, wrong sex hormones and surgical mutilation are never medically necessary in minors!†Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2020, at 5:00 PM, David Pickup <davidpickuplmft@gmail.com> wrote: Translation…â€It’s ok to harm boys by removing body parts because at least we’re preserving a class of people.†This is the height of political correctness. I David Pickup, LMFT-S REINTEGRATIVE' ' i ( fl ... , .,. (888) 288-2071 15851 Dallas Parkway, Suite 600 Addison, TX 75001 www.davidpickuplmft.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-ma il is mea nt only for the us e of the intended recipient. It ma y conta in confidentia l informa tion which is lega lly privileged or otherwis e protected by la w. If you received this e-ma il in error or from s omeone who wa s not a uthorized to s end it to you, you a re s trictly prohibited from reviewing, us ing, dis s emina ting, dis tributing or copying the e-ma il. PLEASE NOTIFY ME IMMEDIATELY OF THE ERROR BY RETURN E-MAIL AND DELETE THIS MESSAGE FROM YOUR SYSTEM. On Jan 15, 2020, at 3:56 PM, Michael Laidlaw <mike@drlaidlaw.com> wrote: "The ACLU of SD said in a statement that it's unconstitutional to single out one group of people and categorically ban all care, no matter how medically necessary". Legal experts have an opinion on that statement? -Mike On 2020-01-15 11:59, Fred Deutsch wrote: Updated and expanded article from our state's largest paper. Many of the lines of thought the oppositions will use is outlined in the article. Let me know any recommendations you may have to counter. - Fred https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/15/south-dakota-legislature-bill-would-punish-doctors-who-perform-sex-reassignment-surgerieslgbt/4476342002/ Attachment: