From: Sent: To: Cc: Andre Van Mol 8/19/2019 5:48:14 AM "Fred Deutsch" <Fred.Deutsch@sdlegislature.gov> "Kelsey Coalition" <kelseycoalition@gmail.com>, "Lee Schoenbeck" <lee@schoenbecklaw.com>, "Cretella Michelle" <drmcretella@gmail.com>, "Shupe Jamie" <jamie.shupe@yahoo.com>, "Jon Uhler" <jkuvpc@yahoo.com>, "VBroyles" <vbroyles@childparentrights.org>, "Laidlaw Michael" <mike@drlaidlaw.com>, "Jon Hansen" <hansen.jonathon@gmail.com>, "William Malone" <malone.will@gmail.com>, "Mary McAlister" <mmcalister@childparentrights.org>, "Mast Richard" <RMast@lc.org>, "Heyer Walt" <waltsbook@yahoo.com>, "Sharp Matt" <msharp@adflegal.org>, "Chris Motz" <cmotz@sdcatholicconference.org>, "michael.biggs@sociology.ox.ac.uk" <michael.biggs@sociology.ox.ac.uk>, "pamosa27@comcast.net" <pamosa27@comcast.net> Subject: Re: update Fred, The phrase “incorrect perception of their sex†grounds the bill in the material, the biological, physical reality, which makes it far easier to defend against the “who are you to say?“ people. Andre Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2019, at 6:30 AM, Fred Deutsch <Fred.Deutsch@sdlegislature.gov> wrote: All, what do you think about KC’s suggest to add incorrect to the sentence: “...attempting to change or affirm the child’s incorrect perception of their sex.†I like the idea – I think it helps to further narrow the bill and avoids causing problems with other medical conditions. But does adding the word cause add’l problems? The other side will certainly argue “who are you to say what’s an incorrect perception?†The answer, of course, is if perception varies from reality, than it is an incorrect perception (the bill’s definition of sex is reality). That said, the process is political. Does the change cast doubt in the mind of legislators about who is to say what’s an incorrect perception? - Fred