From: Sent: To: Cc: "James Shupe (Formerly Jamie Shupe)" 1/15/2020 1:04:23 PM "Fred Deutsch" <fred.deutsch@sdlegislature.gov>, "Vernadette Broyles" <vbroyles@childparentrights.org> "Natasha Chart" <natasha.chart@gmail.com>, "Michael Laidlaw" <mike@drlaidlaw.com>, "Scott Newgent" <scottnewgent@gmail.com>, "Michelle Cretella" <drmcretella@gmail.com>, "Andre Van Mol" <95andrev@gmail.com>, "Scott, Greg" <greg.scott@heritage.org>, "David Pickup" <davidpickuplmft@gmail.com>, "Glenn Ridder" <glenn.ridder@outlook.com>, "MD Paul Hruz PhD" <hruz_p007@att.net>, "Horvath Hacsi" <birdcatcher9@yahoo.com>, "Monique Robles MD" <pamosa27@comcast.net>, "Jane Robbins" <rlrobb123@gmail.com>, "Quentin Van Meter" <kidendo@comcast.net>, "Hudson, MD Bernard" <loyolamd82@gmail.com> Bcc: Subject: Talking Points: The suicide Issue Here are my suggested talking points on the suicide issue. 1. The very numerous late age gender transitions debunk the myth that "it's transition or suicide." In fact, the plaintiff in the Medicare lawsuit was 74-years-old. How you do you make it that far and claim this is medically necessary and you'll commit suicide if you don't get it? It's a lie to force the insurance companies to pick up the tab. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/30/medicare-sex-reassignment/9789675/ 2. Here's the trans woman surgeon bragging about the Medicare win. https://marcibowers.com/blog/victory-medicare-to-cover-transgender-services/ 3. The doctors tell the patients to threaten suicide. "Wong said a suicide threat was an effective means of accomplishing this goal." “So what you need is, you know what? Pull a stunt. Suicide, every time, [then] they will give you what you need,” Wong said, adding that gender-dysphoric kids “learn that. They learn it very fast.” https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/01/doctor-advises-threatening-suicide-get-transgender-treatments-kids/ 4. The media writes articles about New Zealand having a 50-year wait for surgery, but they're not killing themselves because of it. Similarly, the UK has a lengthy backlog for treatment, again, no mass suicides. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11702389 5. The kids who do kill themselves, like this one, have extreme mental health issues. Their suicides then get used as activism. "In the spring I was hospitalized because of the toxic environment and relationships I was experiencing, at home and at school, with my family and my peers. During this time, the inner turmoil of confusion over my identity only escalated. I went through several identities, sometimes changing every two weeks, from pansexual to lesbian, genderqueer, bigender, and genderfluid. Finally, in the summer before 10th grade, I discovered I was transgender." https://ourlivesmadison.com/article/motivated-empowered/ I have 5-10 articles about the seriously mental ill ones killing themselves I can dig up. 6. The Swedish Study says they kill themselves anyway after getting surgery. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885 There's a reason trans activists had my Wordpress Archive shut down. They didn't like all these types of articles being collected and ready for use. James On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 03:07:56 PM EST, Vernadette Broyles <vbroyles@childparentrights.org> wrote: You could pull from our suicide handout (attached again). Fred — You should contact the SD ACLU and ask them for the study(ies) that they base their claim that “transgender youth whose families affirm their gender identity have a 52 percent decrease in suicidal thoughts, a 48 percent decrease in suicide attempts and significant increases in self-esteem and general health”. One of our MD’s can then review them and provide refutation of their alleged evidence. Vernadette Vernadette R. Broyles, Esq. President and General Counsel 5805 State Bridge Rd., Suite G310 Johns Creek, GA 30097 770.448.4525 vbroyles@childparentrights.org www.childparentrights.org On Jan 15, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Fred Deutsch <Fred.Deutsch@sdlegislature.gov> wrote: We will need to respond to the suicidal thoughts quote. Who is best qualified on our team? Bernie? - Fred